First, it's very hard-hitting, especially for a multi-pump rifle. Not very powerful, but a true delight to shoot. Is the scope the problem??? Beeman is just an importer. I plan on getting a Silver Streak 5mm in due time. would i be able to take down larger birds like pheasents and quail with a non head shot? I had a little bit of a problem when i mounted it on the shadow 1000. over the weekend i saw a benjamin 392 airsource (uses co2) on sale for 109.99. wow. Once the sight is removed, you are left with the pieces of metal with groves in them (one on each side). Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. They should pry out with your fingers, one end at a time as you break the suction seal holding them in place. Thanks in advance, Nick. Whats the difference between pellgunoil and weblube? The gamo hunters were the worst for some reason. Having no trouble with the windage adjustment, but the elevation reticle is giving me fits. It is exacttly what you describe. This gun has a lot of potential to become your favorite gun for hours of fun with target shooting. I recommend B-Square AA Adjustable scope mounts. Id really like the 392, but im pretty sure i cant get one. The solution is to remove the pump rod and clean the oil from the pump head and the inside of the pump tube. As many have stated before, the Williams Peep sight is a great addition to the 392. Ive never had a problem with either mounts coming lose or anything. I happen to own an AS392T and I like it a lot. Thanks in advance for your response and all your informative posts. I am considering, based on your posts, the 22SG, 392 or the blue/silver streak. I think the rifle would be easier to pump if I could put my left hand about where the front of the scope is now. thanks:D. You already know what a wonderful airgun this is. But, as pointed out before, taking the old sight off is not mentioned in the instructions that came with the sight. The current page of the blog will open. Yesturday, I sighted in (at 20 yards) using the basic crosman field pointed pellets from walmart, and the crosman destroyers. Looked alot at Mac 1, but got the Talon SS W/ 24barrel also, thanks again for your advice on that one. I havent tried them in a 392, but I have tested them at distance extensively in an AirForce Talon SS. Well I have concluded my tests, and I must say Im surprised. Could you suggest any repair shops in the vicinity of Oklahoma for these repairs? Good news is Im hitting 1 and 1/2 groups now. Rick WillneckerRick is in Pennsylvania, where he repairs vintage and modern Crosman, Benjamin and Sheridan guns. The flat heads mar too easy even with the correct driver. I found that a flimsy metal piece on the levers had curled and bent over causing the wobble. This is a job best left to a qualifies airgunsmith like Mac-1 or Bryan & Associates. BB,Wow thanks for the quick reply. PS: It looks just like my Blue Streak 1974 model serial 014454 that has never failed me. While I had no way of measuring this, pumps 4-8 seemed a lot heavier than 25 lbs. I shot at a pellet tin today (diameter 2.5) from 45 yards offhand with gamo hunters and only connected on 6 of 10. This posting is one of the all-time most popular ones and many like you have told us they love their 392 or 397. i ordered a c9 blue streak on sunday and was wandering if 20 cal is enough knock-down power at 30 yards with a well placed shot, also i have the 14.3gr cylindrical pellets. Then I purchased a BSA classic scope from Wal-mart. (Easy Methods). How many times can you fill the Talon bottle from the Dive tank assuming you are operating on a low power setting on the Talon? Does the accuracy drop off considerably on a steroid modded gun if you pump it to capacity? If no noise, you got away with it. I currently have a tube of webly scott weblube. Thwap! Groups great at 25 yards and is relaxing to shoot. It still DOES NOT work. Mopst Beeman pellets are made by H&N a fine German pellet maker. One thing to remember here is you need the scope with long eye relief and the scope must be positioned at a far distance from your eyes. 633.8 FPS and 12.76 FPE with Daisy 14.3 grains flat-nosed pellet. So .22 pellet is the favorite choice for pest eliminators and small game hunters. The power of the Blue Streak and the 392 are identical. B-Square makes a scope mount base that positions the scope over the receiver, but Im not certain it works with the 397. Im going with premium domed pellets and look forward to sharing my experiences with all the neurotic airheads out there in cyber space. At both Amazon and Walmart.com, it's just under $150. However, if I were to mount a scope on the 392/397 I would use the B-Square Weaver scope base for Benjamin Sheridan Blue Streak. If you have gone in the other direction, the spring is relaxed and that WILL CAUSE the shifting aim points you describe. I got my 392 via regular land transport (2 days) today. But that doesnt mean they wouldnt if they werent binding in some way. The dive cylinder weighs about 40 pounds when filled, so factor that in. I wish you could change the word verification on this system because its a real pain telling the difference between the lower case letters and the capitols. I love my Sheridan Silver Streak C9. However, I still like the idea of his Steriod treatmen. I shot about 100 premiers and 100 benjamin pellets through the 392. The b-square piece is Tight and I applied locktite to the screws and let it sit overnight after I installed it. My tax refund, going to stimulate the economy. I know its not a replacement for a real target gun, but Im curious the extent to which you can control the power reliably and repeatedly. When I get used to plinking with the IZH-61 Ill move to insects, grasshoppers invade our area in the summer, and i think theyre pests, and my parents gave me permission.. so. Whatever pellet you choose has to be accurate. That looks like the right gun for me. I bought some Benjamin Discovery 14.3 hollow point pellets with the gun and find that they indeed do not expand at all when shooting them into the water bottles. The Benjamin has laid to rest many pests and even taken game as large as racoons. Its probably held up better over the years than I have.Thanx any response would be great Rowdy. how many pumps would it take to kill a rat at close range? Sometimes the bolts are so stiff that they dont move as readily. should i send it to pyramid air to get fixed or some place else? he had never pushed it past 6 and does not have the manuals. You must cancel it by always putting your shooting eye in the same place the same as with open sights. By the way, my own credit card info was stolen and used to by jewelry in Japan, so I know how your parents feel. Here we go, the classic air rifle of all time, Benjamin 392, is back. Neither rifle is better. I believ he does. I must have bought these back in 1959 or so serials H75236 and H314989. Surely Im doing something or multiple things wrong. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. Benjamin Airguns- Model 392 Bolt Action .22 Pump Air Rifle. Aaaagh!!! i then tried different techniques which didnt group well. Hey BB, tried the cut and paste to no availe. I REALLY LOVE THE FEEL OF THIS RIFLE! Next was the target practice when I got home. Its the bomb . My 397 manual has the elevation info printed but does NOT include the lateral info. Leave it to the lawmakers to dictate what a fire arm is. A 312 is virtually identical in power and accuracy to a 392. Can anyone recommend a place to purchase a sight or perhaps upgrade to a peep sight or scope? will it? i know i get the 4th tin free but is it worth it to buy 3 tins? item 1 Benjamin Sheridan 397PA Air Pump Pellet Gun Rifle 4.5mm .177 Cal. Like, say mailing a check? That could be the problem. Gamos take thousands of shots to become really good and smooth, while a Weihrauch breaks in in about 1,000 shots. You could call them to see if they can fix your problem, or if your benjamin is new you could probably send it back to crosman for repairs, to find where to send the benjamin for repair you should call crosman at 800-724-7486. It would not pump up and he was looking for parts and/or service for the gun. It was purchased brand new in 1972, when I was 13 years old. Thus I am interested in possibly getting the power upgraded somewhere down the line so that I can bag chucks at longer ranges without worrying that the shots wont be lethal. Too, I have some old Benjamin Franklins one will hold air but the pump level pops down and the other makes a hiss after you pump it and will not hold air. If I pump it 8 times or so and let it sit for two or three minutes until I fire, it loses all it's power. BBJ. Careers. BB-Youre right as usual. He spent a great deal of his childhood years around the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest in Arizona. I cant wait for ur next blog, i find myself sitting on the edge of my seat through the long nights, avidly awaiting ur next post well, maybe i dont go that far, but i do enjoy ur priceless information on bb guns, pellet rifles, bbs, pellets, etc. I recently bought a Benjamin 392 LE # 359 of 500 . It can take down a larger prey easily. Could i charge it from a portable air storage tank? etc.) I was hoping for more from these pellets, but my hopes were scattered almost as badly as the pellet groups . With many less fly aways. AirForce sells a trirail that adds 5/8 of height to the scope rail. I meant the 392, as you indicated. My top pick with your budget is Beemans HW30. BB-Two more questions: I was under the impression that the 392 and the .20 cal bluestreak are essentially the same rifle in different calibers, however they are both listed at 685 fps on your site. Terms of Use | Benjamin 392 Pump Action Air Rifle .22 Caliber. Maybe youll get this one. (For more on the in-depth comparison between .22 and .25 caliber, see this post. I have a Benjamin Franklin 342, .22 cal. The tension loosens as the elevation is lowered. Thomas, BB, Never mind, I figured it out, Some of the letters in the word verification are capitols! The air is compressed when the piston moves rapidly forward, shoved by the mainspring. OK BB. I bought a C9A .20 when I knew there were being discontinued. I dont own a 397, so all my shooting is with.20 and .22 multi-pumps. I would love to try some nice pellets! in .22 with medium weight pellets. I pumped each shot up to 5 pumps. Sight in for 20 yards and use Kentucky elevation for closer shots by moving the tip of the front sight down to the bottom of the rear notch instead of level with the top. My curiosity was piqued and I began to investigate all types of airguns. Is the quality higher in the .20 caliber? For example the Gamo 890S, Beeman SS1000/GH950-GS1000. i know that i will be able to pump up the gun, and i still dont want the co2 392, my mom is trying to get an izh 61 or benjamin 392 for me for Christmas (she found a Benjamin 392 but she couldnt see the pump handle! This is why i prepare for the worst. Thanks B.B. Can you recommend where to find specs and parts for this gun? oh and that izh 61 looks really good too, i remembered something about the izh in ur blogs and went looking for it. Same power and accuracy, different valve design. As long as you lubricated the pum head with Pellgunoil, you can ignore any sounds. Im definetly going for the IZH-61, its cheaper, more accurate(right? It will take a while for me to answer all your questions. Every once in awhile, I get an answer in before you do. B-Square rings are made for adult air rifles while the Crosman Intermount is more of a stopgap measure to put a scope on a gun that doesnt have a good base for it. It will group an inch at 50 yards on a relatively calm day. Only in a gun store that carries a wide line of airguns. But get this, since then Ive had pin-point accuracy with no fly-aways could just be my imagination. My big problem is that after the screws are all the way in, they still slide up and down the barrel. Well gee buddy whats that telling you about the potential to increase your bottom line? I ran out of pellets again and it might be a while before I get more. per stroke. Owners manul says nothing about cleaning the bore. is this normal? Its been raining frequently and there has been very gusty wind so i havent been able to shoot for a couple days. Expect a similar look, fit, and feel as the 397, but in a larger caliber size. I know the only difference is the caliber. Benjamin Trail NP. Discussion 1 (Grad Writing II).docx. It is just wonderful to fire and accurate. I purchased another one and must admit that it brings me back to my youth. bbp, this is a site you and pyramid sould be linked from: http://www.eatel.net/~amptech/elecdisc/rifledemos.htm. Yes, the 392 is too hard for a 14 year-old, unless hes a bodybuilder. Faulty scope? B.B. if you are not into historic or collectibles, buy the new rifle for $30 more and get a warranty. It was a mess, the nose of the bolt was bent at a 45 degree angle, the paint overspray was thick. So, I was all over the airgun idea. You have to get the 392! I think using my Sierra is making me a better shot with my 397!! The trigger also has sharp edges that could have been eased for comfort. I was way more sore in the hand after 80 pumps of the 392 than I am after 80 cocks of a CF-X (~38 lbs.?). but the hand pump has two holes drilled into it with splinters stickin out, are these for screws to hold the handle on the gun? B.B.Your last two paragraphs were interesting, I was all set to trade my old 312 (it needs some work on it, after all of these years) in on a new 392, it seems to be well liked, (the 392s) by the comments Ive read in this column. im runnin out of options and ideas. A question, please. Besides not working or holding air, the biggest fault both rifles have is a broken solder joint between the barrel and the pump tube. I really like my Benjamin 397, but I need better sights. What scope would you recommend and which mounts would I need? I am assuming that you have run the rear sight down as low as it will go and the rifle is still shooting too high. On 8 pumps, it sounds like a loud hand clap. Ive read around a bit since I posted that last question, and read that after around 50-100 shots, it becomes a good rifle. If the 392 will do the job it would be a lot easier for me. Consider an IZH 61 for your girlfriend. Yes, store your gun with one pump of air. As for silicone chamber oil, why not order it here? so ive got eight pumps worth of air in the gun and the pump handle is open. I would defeat my purpose if it was louder than a 22LR. That is not too much. Thank you for your quick response. The stock has aswelling part in the foregrip to make pumping easier for shooters. I cant tell how far 900 degrees south (down?) Hey BBI bought a daisy powerline 1000 with a scope earlier this summer and Ive had a lot of accuracy problems. Lightweight at 5.5-pounds for easy carrying afield. If you are not a fan of plastic guns then this is definitely a great choice for you . . I also like the Gamo Shadow 1000, but be prepared to break it in. OK BB, Heres my latest finding on pellets. 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